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[12:01:05] * danvet waves
[12:01:26] <Lyude> Hey everyone, time for role call! danvet, mdnavare, mfilion, samuelig, rg3igalia, anholt_ 
[12:01:41] <mfilion> o/
[12:02:03] <alyssa-frozen> hi, here maybe intermittently, TBD how cell coverage foes
[12:02:05] <alyssa-frozen> Goes
[12:02:28] <mfilion> haha where are you now alyssa-frozen? 
[12:02:39] <alyssa-frozen> frozen in an igloo, apparently
[12:03:05] <mfilion> lol
[12:03:50] * rg3igalia waves
[12:03:55] <Lyude> Hey everyone! We can start (I'll count rg3igalia as here since they said they'd be a few mins late). The agenda for today: Matrix (no updates from my side yet), XDC, GSoC, and elections
[12:03:59] <Lyude> oh hey there they are
[12:04:15] <alyssa-frozen> Were we going to vote on Twitter
[12:04:23] <alyssa-frozen> Lyude:
[12:04:27] <Lyude> Oh right - I will add that to the agenda as well
[12:04:37] <mfilion> do we have quorum?...
[12:04:44] <Lyude> mfilion: yep-5 out of 8
[12:04:52] <mfilion> phew ok
[12:05:16] <Lyude> (that's also why I do the role calls these days :)
[12:05:36] <mfilion> yeah I thought we were only 4
[12:05:55] * anholt_ here fora bit
[12:06:02] <Lyude> I wonder if we should skip XDC for this meeting? I know samuelig is stepping down from that and I assume we need to find someone else to start heading that
[12:06:38] <mfilion> he's still organizing it no? I thought he was only stepping down from the board?
[12:07:00] <danvet> I thought rg3igalia took over xdc organizer wrestling already?
[12:07:01] <Lyude> Oh right haha, forgot it was in spain this time
[12:07:11] <samuelig> Sorry, connected via mobile
[12:07:14] <Lyude> and yeah you're right, totally slipped my mind
[12:07:14] <danvet> but yeah maybe let's get at least the election result approval through while we have quorum :-)
[12:07:15] <samuelig> I am organizing it
[12:07:29] <Lyude> mhm, so election results mfilion rg3igalia ?
[12:07:29] <alyssa-frozen> danvet: +1
[12:07:32] <samuelig> But xdc coordination should be done by somebody else
[12:07:41] <rg3igalia> I haven't taken over yet with all the elections stuff going on, not sure if I'll take over totally :)
[12:08:27] <samuelig> Regarding xdc organization, no news this week
[12:08:37] <samuelig> I need to send the rfp for xdc 2024 yet
[12:08:45] <samuelig> Hopefully tomorrow 
[12:09:18] <mfilion> Let's start by sending out the election results, and then next week send the rfp?
[12:09:20] <alyssa-frozen> Thanks for taking care of that samuelig
[12:09:39] <alyssa-frozen> mfilion: ++
[12:10:12] <samuelig> mfilion: sounds good to me
[12:10:17] <mfilion> cool ok
[12:10:23] <mfilion> rg3igalia are you sharing the results or am i?
[12:10:29] <danvet> do we need to vote here?
[12:10:34] <danvet> mfilion, there's already a mail on board@
[12:10:36] <danvet> at least for me
[12:10:38] <mfilion> ah cool ok
[12:10:45] <rg3igalia> yes, I sent an email a few hours ago
[12:10:46] <mfilion> I think we need to vote to confirm them
[12:10:50] <Lyude> To certify the results yeah
[12:10:51] <alyssa-frozen> Yea
[12:11:08] <danvet> +1 on approving from me
[12:11:13] <alyssa-frozen> +1
[12:11:15] <mfilion> +1 here too
[12:11:19] <rg3igalia> +1 from me obviously
[12:11:33] <Lyude> +1
[12:11:40] <rg3igalia> \o/
[12:11:43] <mfilion> woo
[12:11:44] <rg3igalia> got us a new board!
[12:11:51] <Lyude> can't believe jeb won all 4 seats, unprecedented
[12:11:51] <mfilion> really really happy about SFC too
[12:11:53] <alyssa-frozen> ✨
[12:12:00] <alyssa-frozen> Jeb?
[12:12:03] <Lyude> hehehehe
[12:12:03] <mfilion> jeb?
[12:12:09] <Lyude> sorry i am joking
[12:12:14] <samuelig> +1
[12:12:33] <Lyude> anyway that means the election results are certified :), and welcome to the new board members Arkadiusz and Christopher!
[12:12:40] <alyssa-frozen> Welcome!!
[12:12:41] <mfilion> indeed!
[12:12:54] <mfilion> @lyude once results are public, will you be getting in touch with SFC for the next steps?
[12:13:01] <alyssa-frozen> danvet: Lyude: and congrats for sticking around another 2 years 😝
[12:13:03] <Lyude> mfilion: yep, I can certainly do that
[12:13:15] <mfilion> nice thank you :)
[12:13:22] <mfilion> haha yes kudos danvet
[12:13:29] <alyssa-frozen> 👍👍
[12:13:50] * rg3igalia gives congraulences to Lyude and danvet 
[12:13:54] <danvet> thx
[12:14:03] <rg3igalia> congratulences*
[12:14:27] <Lyude> While we've got quorum, do we want to do the twitter vote as well? i'm also wondering whether we already voted for that on the mailing list
[12:14:34] <Lyude> also thanks y'all!
[12:15:00] <alyssa-frozen> Lyude: also unclear to me if we voted or not
[12:15:13] <danvet> Lyude, we mostly voted, but you didn't ratify it yet as treasurer, plus it should definitely go into minutes that we're moving
[12:15:23] <danvet> need to announce that everywhere we can
[12:15:27] <Lyude> oh i'm treasurer now? neat
[12:15:28] <alyssa-frozen> Also if Christopher and Arkadiusz not being here now affects quorum for further votes
[12:15:29] <Lyude> ;)
[12:15:47] <danvet> Lyude, secretary I mean :-)
[12:16:01] <alyssa-frozen> 💪Lyude the secretreasurer 💪
[12:16:07] <danvet> alyssa-frozen, I think we can fudge quorum until next board meeting or so
[12:16:09] <mfilion> yeah sorry that email discussion about twitter wasn't ideal. my only point is that I wanted us to be strategic about it, and not just kill it instantly.
[12:16:33] <samuelig> But the elections results apply from next meeting on right?
[12:16:39] <Lyude> oh also, it's a +1 from me on the twitter thing haha. and we can discuss that part as well
[12:16:43] <Lyude> samuelig: I believe so yeah
[12:16:44] <danvet> yeah my take is that in practice we tend to suck with more involved plans (like we got sfc approved by the slimmest of margins)
[12:16:53] <danvet> so most likely won't really change much
[12:17:03] <danvet> samuelig, I think so too
[12:17:03] <mfilion> yep, samuelig this is your last one! :'(
[12:17:10] <rg3igalia> samuelig: no you're out sorry lol go home /jk
[12:17:25] * samuelig runs as hell
[12:17:28] <mfilion> haha
[12:17:39] <alyssa-frozen> I've said everything I have to say. As I said to danvet, when the rest of the board has made up its mind and tells me what change of any to do I'll do it. Until then I'm tapping out of discussion because I don't have the energy to fight this and I'm completely baffled it was a fight in the first place.
[12:17:43] <alyssa-frozen> Re Twitter
[12:17:51] <alyssa-frozen> Discuss and vote as you will.
[12:18:42] <rg3igalia> I would simply freeze (not delete) the Twitter account, leave a new pinned tweet indicating we'll post exclusively on Mastodon from now on, or something like that
[12:18:42] <mfilion> I'm totally fine with moving away from Twitter, just think we need to do it gradually. That's all.
[12:19:13] <rg3igalia> that's not very gradual but gives continuation to anyone following us on twitter
[12:19:49] <danvet> rg3igalia, that's what alyssa-frozen proposed? or at least what I understood
[12:20:13] * rg3igalia does not remember, checks email again
[12:20:46] <danvet> we definitely should hog the old twitter handle for as long as possible (the rules seem to be enough in flux that this might not last but oh well)
[12:20:51] <alyssa-frozen> danvet: yes that's what I proposed and which I think passed vote by email
[12:21:43] <samuelig> My minimum would be what rg3igalia said. +1 to move to mastodon. If we do a softer transition like mfilion proposes, I am also fine. To be honest, given our audience, pinned tweet + email announcement + mention it in the reminders for xdc cfp and rfp… at some point it will stick xD
[12:22:10] <Lyude> I think I'm fine with either method. I personally lean towards just freezing it, but that's mostly because I'm always really skeptical of how numbers on sites like twitter actually translate into traffic. also, yeah, I think we're kinda in a community where mastodon isn't so much of a niche thing
[12:23:40] <Lyude> I guess we can do a vote on how to handle it just to make it official, I'll give +1 on rg3igalia's approach
[12:24:06] <rg3igalia> yep, just checked Alyssa's email, I proposed the same she was proposing
[12:24:54] <rg3igalia> the wording of the tweets is ambiguous enough that I think should be fine, "Following recent changes at Twitter..."
[12:24:58] <mfilion> can we copy/paste the proposal here?
[12:25:26] <rg3igalia> from Alyssa's email
[12:25:28] <rg3igalia> 1. Post the messages below to the respective platforms, AND
[12:25:32] <rg3igalia> 2. Fill out the profile on the X.Org Foundation Mastodon account, AND
[12:25:42] <rg3igalia> 3. Stop updating the Twitter account, but retain ownership of the
[12:25:42] <rg3igalia> handle to avoid squatting.
[12:26:00] <rg3igalia> Tweeter:
[12:26:04] <rg3igalia> > Following recent changes at Twitter, the X.Org Foundation is moving to
[12:26:04] <rg3igalia> > Mastodon. Please follow us at https://floss.social/@XorgFoundation for
[12:26:04] <rg3igalia> > the latest in the Linux graphics world and the freedesktop.org
[12:26:04] <rg3igalia> > community. Going forward, we will no longer post to Twitter, so please
[12:26:04] <rg3igalia> > join us on the Fediverse!
[12:26:12] <rg3igalia> sorry, twitter*
[12:26:22] <rg3igalia> Mastodon:
[12:26:26] <rg3igalia> > Hello, world! Following recent changes at Twitter, the new home of the
[12:26:26] <rg3igalia> > X.Org Foundation is here on Mastodon. Please follow for the latest in
[12:26:26] <rg3igalia> > the Linux graphics world and the freedesktop.org community. Going
[12:26:26] <rg3igalia> > forward, we will no longer post to Twitter, but we're so excited to
[12:26:26] <rg3igalia> > join the Fediverse!
[12:26:35] <Lyude> My only comment on that is should we double check this week's twitter rules to make sure they're not still trying to remove accounts that make references to mastodon?
[12:26:43] <Lyude> i know that was definitely a thing for a short while
[12:26:54] <samuelig> They don’t because I have such references for months
[12:26:59] <Lyude> gotcha
[12:27:00] <samuelig> And I was not deleted
[12:27:03] <Lyude> good enough for me then
[12:27:04] <samuelig> Maybe I am too small
[12:27:09] <rg3igalia> not for minor accounts, but they definitely did in some high profile accounts
[12:27:17] <rg3igalia> not sure if there's still that risk
[12:27:33] <Lyude> would make for a fun phoronix article
[12:27:37] <samuelig> I think that if that’s an issue. It is another reason to move 
[12:27:42] <samuelig>  Not to stop it
[12:27:43] <Lyude> yeah definitely
[12:27:57] <alyssa-frozen> Lyude: lol
[12:28:02] <rg3igalia> anyway, yes, the problem is we would not be able to retain the account as per point 3 of the proposal
[12:28:18] <samuelig> In that case, I don’t care
[12:28:23] <Lyude> so for the record, who's voting to go with alyssa-frozen / rg3igalia 's approach?
[12:28:34] <Lyude> rg3igalia: tbh based off what samuelig said I think it'll be fine
[12:28:42] <samuelig> +1
[12:28:45] <rg3igalia> +1
[12:28:49] <danvet> Lyude, also see board@
[12:28:52] <danvet> +1
[12:29:20] <danvet> for anholt_ 's vote if she's gone already
[12:29:20] <alyssa-frozen> (Obviously +1 from me)
[12:30:08] <anholt_> +1
[12:30:14] <mfilion> -1 from me
[12:30:43] <Lyude> alright, I think we can say it's approved then
[12:31:07] <alyssa-frozen> I'll take care of that probably tonight in that case
[12:31:11] <Lyude> sgtm
[12:31:20] <samuelig> Good
[12:31:31] <samuelig> Ok that is my last vote after 4 years
[12:31:33] <Lyude> I think that's basically it then for this meeting unless I've missed anything :), thank you for coming everyone
[12:31:35] <danvet> maybe put the 6:1 vote result in minutes since it's extremely rare we're not just unanimous
[12:31:39] <alyssa-frozen> Cheers
[12:31:42] <samuelig> Thank you everybody! I enjoyed this a lot!
[12:31:43] <Lyude> danvet: sgtm
[12:31:51] <mfilion> I'm not going to take care of social media going forward, so if anyone wants to do it, please do
[12:31:56] <alyssa-frozen> samuelig: good luck with your furrier ventures
[12:31:59] <alyssa-frozen> Future
[12:32:03] <Lyude> samuelig: thanks for your service!
[12:32:08] <mfilion> thank you for everything samuelig!
[12:32:10] <alyssa-frozen> Also maybe furrier if you have pets
[12:33:07] <samuelig> Hahaha
[12:34:52] <danvet> samuelig, thx a lot!
[12:36:01] <mfilion> so are we done?
[12:36:40] <mfilion> alright I guess so
[12:36:46] <danvet> Lyude, ^^
[12:44:19] <mfilion> Lyude we need to inform Alan about Twitter too as he was  doing alot of the posting & retweeting. 
[12:44:40] <mfilion> and then find someone to do the same on Mastodon
[12:45:02] <mfilion> maybe alyssa is up for it
[12:56:05] <rg3igalia> by the way, I'll send the election results tomorrow, it's a bit too late for me here
[13:00:53] <mfilion> cool ok, thanks again!
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