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[11:13:47] <Lyude> anholt_, danvet, alyssa, mdnavare, mfilion, rg3igalia, role call
[11:13:54] <danvet> waves
[11:13:58] <danvet> but kinda busy ...
[11:14:00] <rg3igalia> I'm here
[11:15:55] <Lyude> guess we're just waiting for one more person at least
[11:16:19] <danvet> rg3igalia, mfilion https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorgfoundation/xorg_membership/-/merge_requests <- you have two merge requests to approve here and check with mupuf whether it works for deploying automatically or anything needed
[11:16:33] <danvet> Lyude, ^^ probably just for the minutes that mupuf fixed these two things
[11:16:45] <alyssa>  Lyude: hello
[11:16:48] <danvet> since this is election committee stuff doesn't need the full board :-)
[11:16:52] <Lyude> hey! 
[11:16:56] <danvet> also we kinda late with elections :-/
[11:17:15] <danvet> unless something moved since I last checked
[11:17:32] <Lyude> no we're definitely a bit late, which makes me wonder if we should shift the terms slightly over to account for that
[11:17:36] <rg3igalia> I guess so, since we're in the process of approving membership renewals and receiving candidates
[11:18:00] <rg3igalia> I should send a reminder, BTW
[11:18:32] <Lyude> gotcha, I will send my nomination at some point today btw
[11:18:49] <Lyude> would have done it earlier but I was kinda awol until this week from covid :(
[11:18:55] <rg3igalia> danvet: I asked mupuf earlier this week about how to test the changes, since I'm not qualified to review the code
[11:19:29] <rg3igalia> not sure how to proceed for the MRs otherwise
[11:19:43] <danvet> rg3igalia, oh you started already? wiki is still stuck on 2022 elections and there's no tiemtable there?
[11:19:58] <rg3igalia> then I should update the wiki, I guess
[11:20:08] <rg3igalia> but mails have been out already for a couple of weeks
[11:20:27] <danvet> rg3igalia, I guess the wiki is missing that step and needs to be fixed
[11:20:47] <Lyude> I guess agenda for today: elections stuff (which we're talking about now of course), matrix/not-twitter: I will try to actually get to that this week, and I think we might need to skip XDC updates since I think samuelig is out today
[11:21:17] <rg3igalia> oh, right, I can see I should update the top of https://wiki.freedesktop.org/xorg/BoardOfDirectors/Elections/ with what we've done so far
[11:21:47] <danvet> rg3igalia, essentially it's a) move the last year's link on https://www.x.org/wiki/BoardOfDirectors/Elections/ b) add new page and fill it out with timeline c) link it at the top of Elections/
[11:22:04] <rg3igalia> gotcha, thanks!
[11:22:08] <danvet> rg3igalia, also need a step before the elections starts to fill in candidate details and what is getting voted on
[11:22:23] <danvet> rg3igalia, at the very bottom there's examples including when we voted on bylaw changes
[11:22:28] <rg3igalia> yes, I see the old page
[11:22:50] * anholt_ here now
[11:23:38] <Lyude> btw, are we missing anything on the agenda?
[11:23:50] <Lyude> if not I think this might end up being a pretty short meeting
[11:23:56] <mupuf> rg3igalia: sorry, forgot to answer. You can deploy the website locally and test, or we deploy it live and you test? I mean, it's not the end of the world if there is a regression before the vote starts
[11:24:19] <alyssa> Lyude: not that i know of, never managed to get in touch with conservancy about SPDX and don't really have the spoons to care either
[11:25:44] <rg3igalia> mupuf: when you say that I can deploy the website locally, you mean in my own laptop, for example?
[11:25:56] <Lyude> I guess that's pretty much it then unless anyone has anything else
[11:27:06] <tlwoerner> for gsoc we have a couple mentors and one student we're working with so far
[11:27:41] <tlwoerner> it looks like emersion is interested in mentoring for columbarium to do a pipewire project
[11:27:42] <Lyude> oh right! thank you for reminding me about that
[11:28:05] <alyssa> (though it did feel weird to tell people to wait on sfc for spdx and then not be able to get in touch with sfc about spdx, which makes me think i've deadlocked this :( )
[11:28:19] <tlwoerner> however, we need to be careful. gsoc is a program to introduce students to open-source, it's not a program to fund open-source projects
[11:29:01] <tlwoerner> emersion: we need to verify that columbarium is not a significant, non-trivial contributor to open-source already
[11:29:13] <tlwoerner> otherwise we could consider the project for evoc
[11:29:54] <emersion> tlwoerner: i though that policy was gone?
[11:31:54] <tlwoerner> emersion: the change in policy is that a contributor no longer has to be a student at an accredited post-secondary institution
[11:33:16] <tlwoerner> so, in theory, a 50-year-old person who has been a developer their entire lives (or perhaps even just attended a code-camp) could qualify for gsoc provided they've never contributed to open-source before (at least not in a non-trivial way)
[11:34:35] <emersion> tlwoerner: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/rules
[11:34:40] <emersion> "be a student or a beginner to open source software development"
[11:34:46] <emersion> the "or" is important here
[11:34:59] <tlwoerner> isn't that what i said?
[11:35:39] <emersion> a student who's a big FOSS contributor *and* a student would qualify, tlwoerner
[11:36:09] <tlwoerner> Google Summer of Code (GSoC) is a program designed to bring new, excited contributors into open source communities, with the hope that they will continue to contribute to open source communities long after their GSoC program ends.
[11:36:10] <emersion> eh, two "student" in here, English is hard
[11:36:38] <emersion> tlwoerner: i'd trust the formal "rules" page more than the marketing stuff
[11:36:47] <tlwoerner> that's from the faq
[11:36:53] <emersion> section 7.1.a is pretty clear
[11:37:12] <tlwoerner> in any case, i can ask for clarification
[11:38:35] <emersion> tlwoerner: do you find the rules ambiguous?
[11:39:18] <emersion> tlwoerner: the 2023 blog post highlights the change: https://opensource.googleblog.com/2023/01/mentor-organization-applications-are-open-for-google-summer-of-code-2023.html
[11:39:33] <emersion> "Our most noted change coming in 2023 is that we are expanding the program to be open to students and to beginners in open source software development."
[11:48:36] <mupuf> rg3igalia: yes. There are no services needed, just python and pip
[11:49:16] <rg3igalia> mupuf: ok, I'll ping you tomorrow if I'm not able to test locally, because likely I'm going to need some handholding
[11:50:23] <mupuf> Sure!
[11:50:42] <rg3igalia> thanks again!
[12:12:07] <mfilion> ugh missed the meeting again. sorry about that.
[12:12:33] <mfilion> fyi DST kicks in here this Saturday, and only starts in two weeks in the EU
[12:14:17] <mfilion> rg3igalia lmk if you need me to review anything once you're done updating
[12:18:29] <alyssa> DST? ugh
[12:18:36] <alyssa> just when i thought i was getting on a sleep schedule :p
[12:46:21] <mdnavare> Hi All, sorry missed the meeting today with lots of keynotes this morning for International Women's Day today
[12:50:34] <alyssa> There's a day just for international women? :-P
[12:51:50] <mdnavare> March 8th - International Women's Day! So at Google its celebrated with talks, keynotes and panels with all Women Leaders here! 
[12:51:55] <alyssa> :-D
[12:52:01] <alyssa> just feeling silly :)
[12:52:14] <alyssa> 'grats on the new job, by the way :)
[13:01:41] <mdnavare> Thanks Alyssa! 

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