[23:59:37] <mupuf> egbert, whot: ping [23:59:42] <mupuf> agd5f: ping [00:00:00] - {Day changed to Friday, 23 December 2016} [00:00:17] <robclark> so I guess to get one topic out of the way, I haven't had any time to do anything w/ updating members agreement yet.. how long do we have before election? [00:00:29] <whot> mupuf: I'm here [00:01:46] <mupuf> robclark: election should be finished max in march [00:01:52] <mupuf> now is a good time to start planing [00:01:57] <mupuf> we have been drifting more and more [00:02:08] <robclark> ok.. so at least you didn't say Jan 1st ;-) [00:02:20] <whot> speaking of which, we should expire the members as every year [00:02:49] <robclark> right, expire and member re-sign-up is probably the deadline we actually care about for updating members agreement.. [00:02:51] <mupuf> ok, so what topics do we have? [00:03:07] <robclark> (I *think* I should have some time for it next week, fwiw) [00:03:17] <robclark> not really sure what other topics we have [00:03:26] <keithp> it is pretty quiet this week, I'd hope [00:04:13] <mupuf> elections, Khronos, archiving board@ [00:04:21] <mupuf> maybe GSoC [00:04:30] <mupuf> anything else? [00:04:53] -*- robclark thinks of nothing else [00:05:19] <mupuf> ok, then let's start the meeting [00:05:27] <mupuf> robclark: elections, what do we need to do? [00:05:48] <mupuf> are you the selected one to take care of it? Do you need pointers? [00:06:11] -*- robclark didn't realize he had signed up for more than updating member's agreement.. [00:06:45] <mupuf> robclark: fair enough :D [00:06:55] <robclark> I guess if whot isn't going for re-election, probably not a horrible idea for someone else to do election this time around while whot is still around for tech support.. [00:07:04] <mupuf> we need someone to take care of this though, and it cannot be anyone who will be up for re-electiom [00:07:09] <robclark> (although might be good to be someone not up for re-election?) [00:07:28] <robclark> I think I'm up for re-election, aren't I? [00:07:56] <whot> traditionally the election committee were the 4 that got elected that year, sort-of as a contratulations :) [00:08:11] <robclark> makes sense [00:08:14] <mupuf> robclark: oh, I thought you got elected last year [00:08:15] <mupuf> sorry [00:08:25] <robclark> np [00:08:33] <whot> that'd be egbert, agd5f, keithp and bryce [00:08:45] <keithp> no, rob, mupuf, whot and danvet are timing out this year [00:09:30] <mupuf> then I guess agd5f may be up for organising it then :D [00:09:45] <mupuf> since he is not here to say otherwise :D [00:09:50] <whot> hehe [00:09:50] <keithp> Always bad to miss a meeting :-) [00:10:12] <mupuf> ok, so let's try to get the election around february [00:10:12] <whot> that email I sent to the board list with the howto should still work, it's not like we changed anything in the system [00:10:26] <mupuf> yeah [00:10:39] <whot> mupuf: you mean *started* around february, there's heaps of timeouts so an election takes at least 8 weeks or so [00:11:02] <mupuf> yeah, the first week after fosdem [00:11:22] <mupuf> being the first deadline: AKA registration deadline [00:13:36] <mupuf> ok, let's move on [00:13:51] <mupuf> Khronos [00:14:02] <mupuf> AFAIR, no answers from Martin [00:14:14] <mupuf> we would need to ask them why it is taking so long :s [00:14:44] <robclark> probably worth pinging them a day or so before whenever their board mtgs are, fwiw.. [00:15:38] <mupuf> sounds like a good idea [00:15:51] <mupuf> Until then, seems like everyone is busy [00:16:08] <mupuf> archiving board@: What do we do with this? [00:16:17] <mupuf> any news on the encrypted git repo? [00:17:34] <robclark> archive good idea, not sure if git is best way to do that though.. [00:18:24] <mupuf> well, it has to be private [00:18:31] <mupuf> what else? [00:18:33] <robclark> I guess danvet and bryce not around, so maybe we shouldn't expect any news on encrypted git repo.. [00:18:40] <mupuf> agreed [00:18:53] <mupuf> Well, I guess that leaves GSoC. [00:19:19] <mupuf> January 19 16:00 UTC --> application deadline [00:19:21] <robclark> I think private is sufficient.. idk, seems silly to have a script make a git commit on every board@ email.. but I guess in the end I'd defer to whoever volutneers to implement it :-P [00:19:34] <mupuf> hehe, yeah [00:19:53] <robclark> hmm, that soon for GSoC.. [00:19:55] <mupuf> err, February 9 16:00 UTC is the deadline [00:20:02] <robclark> ahh [00:20:03] <mupuf> but it opens on the 19th [00:20:22] <mupuf> we need to contact the wayland team to know if they still want to be separate [00:20:39] <mupuf> and we need to be more active in asking for potential good projects [00:21:12] <robclark> right [00:21:44] <mupuf> agd5f may be able to help there, again :p [00:21:55] <mupuf> because he has nothing to worry about at AMD right now :D [00:22:51] <mupuf> more seriously though, if I am mentoring again this year, I would like someone else to handle the general GSoC business [00:22:51] <robclark> I guess/assume on the application side, we can more or less submit same application as last year, modulo confirming w/ wayland their plans? [00:23:14] <mupuf> because I fail to do the work properly of keeping track of everyone's progress [00:23:23] <mupuf> yes [00:24:25] <robclark> ok, we should probably decide who handles heading up general GSoC end of things at next mtg when (hopefully) more ppl present.. mean time, I guess that doesn't stop us from poking people to make sure GSoC ideas wiki page is up to date, etc.. [00:24:44] <mupuf> yeah [00:25:08] <mupuf> February 27 <-- this is when we need to have some projects already listed [00:25:29] <mupuf> March 20 is when we need it done entirely [00:25:48] <robclark> on administrative side, if we can more or less reuse last years application, that doesn't sound like it would take huge amount of time so not *too* urgent quite yet.... the thing that takes time is coming up w/ project ideas and then making sure potential students get the message about pre-reqs of upstream patches and that sort of thing early enough that they have time to apply.. [00:26:26] <mupuf> I can do this part [00:27:17] <mupuf> what I need help with: Checking the progress of students and posting about that [00:27:24] <mupuf> and forcing them to communication [00:27:28] <mupuf> communicate* [00:27:35] <mupuf> I can do it with my students, but that's it [00:27:42] <robclark> ok, fair enough [00:28:40] <mupuf> this is ~1h/week [00:28:41] <robclark> well, if no one else volunteers, I can... but would like to give a chance for someone else to do it (and trying to avoid to overcommit too much ;-)) [00:28:57] <robclark> (which is why I suggested bringing up next mtg ;-)) [00:28:59] <mupuf> yeah, overcommiting is easy :D [00:29:03] <mupuf> agreed [00:29:21] <mupuf> ok, I guess there isn't much to say [00:29:27] <mupuf> and we can call this meeting closed? [00:29:38] <robclark> I guess so