[22:45:28] [connected at Thu Apr 28 22:45:28 2016] [22:45:38] [I have joined #xf-bod] [22:51:11] <keithp> yup, I'm here for a short while [22:52:18] <agd5f> I'll be here [23:00:09] <danvet> hi all! [23:00:32] <danvet> Agenda: election, offices, spi, x.org, gsoc [23:00:57] <danvet> anything else? [23:01:07] <robclark> o/ [23:01:11] <danvet> \o [23:01:13] <keithp> isn't that enough? [23:01:27] <bryce> keithp, never ;-) [23:02:05] <robclark> are we roughly the same distribution of timezones now? Otherwise that is a topic.. [23:02:57] <bryce> robclark, pacific tz here [23:02:58] <whot> we still have .au, .eu and both us coasts [23:03:36] <robclark> ok, so I guess the timeslot stands [23:03:41] <danvet> yeah, mupuf still screwed mostly ;-) [23:04:04] <danvet> did egbert say he can't make it? [23:04:15] <danvet> tried to ping him already earlier today [23:04:19] <mupuf_> iäm here! [23:04:28] <danvet> mupuf_, hi! [23:04:28] <mupuf_> bryce: welcome! [23:04:35] <bryce> mupuf_, thanks :-) [23:04:40] <agd5f> hi [23:04:48] <keithp> I need to disappear shortly if possible [23:05:24] <danvet> keithp, only thing would have been x.org domain, but if egbert isn't around we can discuss that next time around I'd say [23:05:52] <keithp> sounds good. I'm thinking that once SPI "owns" the x.org assets, we can ask Leon to transfer it to them [23:05:53] <egbert> hi gents! [23:06:05] <danvet> oh cool, egbert's around! [23:06:19] <danvet> we have everyone, let's get rolling [23:06:37] <egbert> sorry for being late, had to connect to my screen session at home first [23:06:38] <danvet> congrats to new/reelected board members agd5f, egbert, keithp &bryce [23:06:45] <keithp> tnx! and welcome Bryce! [23:06:46] <egbert> thx! [23:06:56] <danvet> and thanks a lot for outgoing board member marcoz who decided to step down [23:07:07] <egbert> right! welcome our new Board Member! [23:07:17] <bryce> thanks all, looking forward to it [23:07:27] <keithp> two in one city [23:07:39] <egbert> and same, thanks for all the work to marcoz. hope to see you on xdc :) [23:07:41] <keithp> we can do pancakes [23:08:01] <marcoz> most welcome. and yes I'll be there! :) [23:08:11] <danvet> marcoz, cool [23:08:46] <bryce> keithp, heh yep [23:08:50] <danvet> next up I guess is offices ... [23:09:06] <danvet> I'm stupid enough to do secretary for another year I think [23:09:15] <egbert> about the domain, i cannot say anything as i haven't had the chance to do anything. but since keithp is here, keithp, can you send me the status how far you had got there? [23:09:40] <keithp> egbert: I was thinking that once we've transfered our legal entity to SPI, we can ask Leon to transfer the domain to them [23:09:49] <danvet> egbert, you definitely scored a big mandate with your election platform though ;-) [23:09:49] <keithp> seems like a good opportunity to me [23:10:12] <egbert> danvet: yup [23:10:24] <egbert> keithp, true [23:10:39] <danvet> keithp, so would need to restart discussion with leon and sflc and everyone anyway I guess? [23:10:42] <keithp> perhaps approach him now and see if that's a good idea [23:10:54] <danvet> yeah I think that would be good [23:11:01] <egbert> keithp: i'll contact him. [23:11:04] <keithp> tnx [23:11:18] <danvet> asking leon how he thinks of transferring to spi and whether he has concerns/conditions/yadayada [23:11:26] <keithp> I'm gonna get the cat settled elsewhere for his nap and take off then. Have fun kids! [23:11:31] <danvet> egbert, cool, that means we've covered x.org too [23:11:35] <danvet> thx for doing this [23:11:46] <egbert> sure! [23:12:16] <danvet> ok, back to secretary [23:12:26] <danvet> anyone else or are we going to do a 7 yay 1 abstain once more? [23:12:55] * danvet needs to amortize the script more [23:14:42] * mupuf_ thinks danvet is doing an amazing job! [23:14:45] mupuf_ is now known as mupuf [23:14:54] <egbert> yup! [23:16:17] <danvet> folks? or everyone happy to not be volunteered? [23:16:37] <whot> pretty much :) [23:16:45] <robclark> was that a vote? if so +1 for secretary danvet [23:16:47] <egbert> danvet: i think everybody feels you've done a superb job! [23:16:57] <whot> you have to hold out until XDC and then pass it to someone else there ;) [23:16:59] <danvet> the glowing praise, it's awesome ;-) [23:17:35] <danvet> robclark, seem no opposition anyway [23:17:41] <danvet> next up is treasurer [23:17:56] <danvet> stukreit, you're ok with doing it for a little longer until it's all handed of to spi? [23:18:13] <danvet> but I think we should look for someone already to take over already ... [23:18:19] <danvet> bryce, robclark ? [23:18:26] <danvet> always aim for the new ones ;-) [23:18:36] <bryce> danvet, I'd be open. I do treasuring for Inkscape among other things [23:18:44] <danvet> with spi handling the paperwork it shouldn't be much work at all [23:18:55] <egbert> it should be someone in the us i guess as it would make things with the bank easier if you have to show up there [23:18:57] <robclark> then +1 for bryce :-) [23:19:01] <danvet> oh, someone with experience, practically elected! [23:19:06] <bryce> heh [23:19:09] <robclark> right :-) [23:19:17] <danvet> egbert, spi will handle bank for us now [23:19:24] <danvet> but tz overlap is still good I'd say [23:19:26] <egbert> until then? [23:19:28] <agd5f> +1 for danvet as sec. and +1 for bryce as treasurer [23:19:49] <danvet> egbert, stukreit I hope, he agreed to run the show until we hand over to spi [23:19:55] <egbert> ok [23:19:55] <mupuf> +1 for danvet and +1 for bryce [23:19:55] <danvet> assuming it'll happen in 2016 [23:20:01] <danvet> which we managed to pull off [23:20:06] <bryce> and I'll +1 danvet as secretary [23:20:08] <egbert> same here +1/+1 [23:20:18] <danvet> bryce, didn't actually want to elect you right away tbh ... [23:20:29] <danvet> but you're ok with that? [23:21:14] <bryce> danvet, I'm fine with it. I'll need to get up to speed but am assuming there'll be time before the transition? [23:21:20] <danvet> cool, awesome [23:21:28] * danvet +1 for bryce [23:21:35] <whot> at the speed we're usually going, yes, there will be time :) [23:21:42] <danvet> whot, keithp? [23:21:43] <whot> +1 for bryce, +1 for danvet [23:22:10] <danvet> bryce, an yeah the idea is that you'd get up to speed together with stuart while we transfer stuff to spi, so you'd know the spi treasure and process and all that [23:22:11] <bryce> I'll apprentice to stukreit for now if he's willing to mentor [23:22:16] <danvet> and would take over once spi holds our funds [23:22:19] <danvet> yeah [23:22:34] <bryce> ok sounds good [23:23:03] <danvet> so next up is spi [23:23:17] <danvet> thanks to massive PR we dragged enough folks into the voting booth, and we're joining! [23:23:19] <danvet> \o/ [23:23:40] <danvet> I'd say I write a mail to Martin starting transfer stuff [23:23:49] <danvet> with bryce/stuart on cc for money stuff [23:23:55] <danvet> egbert for the x.org troubles [23:23:59] <mupuf> yeah! [23:24:03] <danvet> and sflc/mishi for legal stuff [23:24:17] <danvet> since I'm not sure whether sflc wants to retain the legal body or not [23:24:27] <danvet> anything else I should mention or someone I should include? [23:24:31] <danvet> ofc cc both boards [23:25:22] <danvet> egbert, keithp, whot or any of the other oldtimers? [23:25:52] <whot> cc the board list should be enough? [23:26:04] <egbert> danvet: not right off hand. if we need to we can still relay things to others later. [23:26:46] <danvet> whot, wanted to include individuals so the right mail addresses are known [23:26:50] <danvet> in case [23:27:08] <danvet> egbert, good point, I'll type that tomorrow then ... [23:27:12] <whot> right [23:27:23] <egbert> danvet: sure, maybe please also add the board list. [23:27:33] <danvet> egbert, sure [23:27:49] <danvet> anything else wrt elections/spi? [23:27:56] <egbert> this is so that everybody who is not so familiar with the legacy (Bryce!) gets to know some of the ins and outs. [23:28:13] <bryce> yeah I'll need to study up on this [23:28:16] <danvet> it's amusing ... [23:28:34] <egbert> unless you are involved in it yourself ... [23:28:39] <bryce> heh [23:29:27] <danvet> oh right [23:29:33] <danvet> whot, you added bryce to board@ already? [23:29:52] <bryce> I can sympathize; we had to do similar legal paperwork stuff for Inkscape with the Software Conservancy. [23:29:53] <whot> no, but I'll chase that up, iirc I'm not a board admin but I have it somewhere [23:30:25] <whot> agd5f: my notes say you are board@ list admin [23:30:28] <danvet> bryce, oh and you're preferred mail for board stuff pls [23:30:30] <egbert> bryce: difference is that you did not have a 20+ y legacy ;) [23:30:32] <bryce> is there a list of tasks somewhere for the remaining work for the SPI merger? [23:30:36] * danvet updating wiki right now [23:30:42] <danvet> and I only have @canonical [23:30:52] <danvet> bryce, we're not that structured ... [23:31:31] <agd5f> I can add bryce once I get his email. [23:31:35] <bryce> danvet, ah that's defunct. Maybe use Bryce Harrington <bryce@osg.samsung.com> [23:31:44] <agd5f> preferred email [23:32:01] <bryce> danvet, secondary/permanent email is Bryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org> [23:32:53] <danvet> bryce, pls double-check http://www.x.org/wiki/BoardOfDirectors/ [23:33:15] <danvet> ok, I think that's it, otherwise if there's more we can chat on board@ [23:33:20] <danvet> mupuf, agd5f gsoc update? [23:33:36] <mupuf> we got 2 students! [23:33:42] <mupuf> that's way lower than usual [23:33:51] <danvet> :( [23:33:56] <mupuf> but wayland has its own org [23:34:01] <mupuf> and they got one sutdent [23:34:06] <agd5f> bryce, is the samsung email preferred for board stuff? [23:34:07] <mupuf> so, that would be 3 [23:34:09] <danvet> so 3 altogether ... [23:34:14] <bryce> danvet, looks good [23:34:14] <mupuf> which is lower than the 5 we usually gety [23:34:17] <bryce> agd5f, yes [23:34:26] <danvet> bryce, btw any legal disclaimer from samsung I need to take on record [23:34:27] <danvet> ? [23:34:37] <bryce> danvet, good question, I'll enquire [23:34:39] <mupuf> so, we need to spend more time on advertising this, coming up with better ideas earlier too [23:34:50] <danvet> some companies want/need something along the lines of "not representing $company on this board" [23:35:01] <danvet> mupuf, hm yeah [23:35:06] <bryce> Samsung is sponsoring my membership but I'm not formally representing their interests or anything [23:35:14] <danvet> this time around I totally missed adding the kernel gsoc stuff to the page [23:35:29] <danvet> although I did keep http://www.x.org/wiki/DRMJanitors/ up to date [23:35:33] <mupuf> yeah, I did it for you [23:35:36] <mupuf> I added the page [23:35:38] <danvet> ah cool [23:35:46] <bryce> danvet, yeah that verbage would probably be appropriate. I'll check and follow up with you offline. [23:36:02] <danvet> bryce, HR should have a readymade process/template if they care [23:36:05] <danvet> otherwise meh [23:36:24] <bryce> inkscape only got 2, which is down from the past. I think google may be spreading the slots more broadly or something [23:36:41] <agd5f> added [23:36:42] <danvet> mupuf, wasn't it also a lack of good candidates on our side? [23:36:44] <danvet> agd5f, thx [23:36:50] <mupuf> danvet: yes, also [23:36:54] <danvet> mupuf, or lack of mentors too? [23:36:57] <mupuf> we had 7 proposals [23:37:07] <mupuf> 5 were properly submited [23:37:13] <mupuf> 3 were for the same project [23:37:25] <bryce> danvet, same thing for inkscape. If we had gotten more slots we probably would have given them up due to lack of good candidates. [23:37:29] <mupuf> one of which was serious [23:37:39] <agd5f> I'll drop marcoz and I guess keep stuart on the list for now until the treasurer transition is complete [23:37:51] <danvet> mupuf, have you chatted with sarahsharp about this? [23:38:03] <danvet> she's all over onboarding and dragging new folks into projects [23:38:05] <robclark> mupuf, we perhaps need to emphasis a bit better the pre-req's and try to avoid students missing the deadline due to waiting too long to submit a patch, etc.. [23:38:11] <danvet> agd5f, sounds good [23:38:37] <mupuf> danvet: well, I would need to talk to her about it [23:38:48] <danvet> mupuf, also do we have some wiki somewhere so we don't forget stuff? [23:38:59] <danvet> like we've done with the xdc rfp thing last year ... [23:39:01] <mupuf> danvet: forgot what? [23:39:13] <mupuf> ah right [23:39:26] <danvet> do good PR upfront, make sure students aren't late, that kind of silly stuff that's easy but also easily forgotten [23:39:46] <mupuf> danvet: I could create a page with the timing [23:40:06] <danvet> mupuf, that might help for next time around, then we could flesh it out some more [23:40:17] <danvet> and start brainstorming what to do better perhaps [23:40:28] <danvet> anyway, so no real updates compared to last time around? [23:40:38] <danvet> I think I had the 2 students already covered [23:40:51] <mupuf> danvet: well, the news is that google announced it [23:41:07] <danvet> ah cool [23:41:11] * danvet types that down [23:41:44] <danvet> so prep phase now until gsoc starts for real? [23:41:50] <mupuf> yes! [23:42:45] <danvet> cool [23:42:58] <danvet> so sounds like we're done, slightly short even [23:43:02] <danvet> anything else? [23:43:18] <mupuf> no news for XDC... sorry... [23:43:19] <whot> nothing from me [23:43:22] <danvet> otherwise goodnight/day/whatever it is where you are! [23:43:27] <agd5f> nothing here [23:43:37] <danvet> mupuf, oh I just assume that's going to happen, and you'll pipe up if you need anything ... [23:43:48] <mupuf> yep yep! [23:43:52] <danvet> mupuf, should I chat with kimmo about it? [23:44:13] <mupuf> nope, I just need to go to the Uni and see the room [23:44:16] <danvet> or all good [23:44:17] <danvet> ah ok [23:44:21] <mupuf> actually, yeah, ping him about the catering [23:44:30] <mupuf> cattering ? [23:44:53] * mupuf keeps forgetting the spelling :D [23:45:01] <danvet> yeah with all the budget nonsense going on ... [23:45:21] <danvet> anyway, sounds like we're all done [23:45:33] <danvet> bryce, thx once more for signing up as treasurer [23:45:42] <danvet> g'night all [23:45:52] <egbert> good night! [23:46:06] <robclark> gn [23:46:19] <mupuf> whot: gday mate! [23:46:25] <bryce> night! [23:46:26] <mupuf> to everyone else, good night! [23:47:37] <whot> mupuf: heh. g'day is a greeting, not a farewell :)
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