Date is 2015-02-20, times are UTC+10.
08:01 < whot> good morning gents 08:01 -!- tstellar [~tstellar@annarchy.freedesktop.org] has joined #xf-bod 08:01 < keithp> afternoon 08:01 < agd5f> hi 08:01 <+egbert> hi, good evening. another hour to morning here ;p 08:01 < agd5f> egbert, feeling better? 08:02 < marcoz> morning, afternoon, night 08:02 <+alanc> there's a mailing list for the member applications? I've always just looked at the webpage 08:02 <+egbert> marcoz: yeah, today. first day back to work. 08:02 <+egbert> lot to catch up. 08:03 <+egbert> i don't think there is an ml. 08:04 <+egbert> i approved applications until i left for fosdem. 08:04 < whot> mupuf_: ping 08:04 < mupuf_> hey. sorry, i'm on my phone so i'll ttpe slowly But I'l fully available 08:04 <+egbert> the ones of people i knew were members before. 08:04 < keithp> egbert: sorry to have missed you at fosdem! The weekend was crazy... 08:04 <+alanc> egbert: apparently there's something mailing anholt 08:04 <+egbert> keithp: were you there? 08:04 < keithp> egbert: indeed 08:05 <+egbert> keithp: i told everybody you weren't. as you told me so on xdc. 08:06 <+egbert> keithp: maybe this was the best sulution anyhow - since you were busy with other things ;p 08:06 < keithp> I've got boxes of chocolate from mary's that prove I was there 08:06 <+egbert> hehe. i got piles of boxes as well. 08:06 < whot> ok, agenda for today is: election, spi faq, opw status, xdc 08:06 <+egbert> the one from last year lasted me until shortly before this event. 08:07 <+anholt> by "mailing list" I apparently mean "my address in the php." I've fixed that now. alanc, you win email. 08:07 <+egbert> whot: may i add something? 08:07 < whot> egbert: sure 08:07 <+alanc> heh, um, thanks I guess 08:07 <+egbert> the x.org domain registration. i talked to mherrb on fosdem. he got a folunteer to look int this. 08:08 < whot> opw status is easiest (aside from now being called outreachy): mid-term status was last week, christian is happy with Asal's process so she gets the payment. couple of larger than expected hurdles but there's a steady stream of patches in her repo (not on the list yet though :(. I browsed through a few and they need cleaning up, otherwise it looks ok 08:08 < whot> egbert: do we know who the volunteer is? 08:08 <+egbert> :) 08:08 <+egbert> marc balmer 08:09 <+egbert> most here may know him 08:09 <+alanc> it looks like we've renewed it through next january, but the contact is still leon 08:09 <+egbert> he was on xdc in toulouse. 08:09 < mupuf_> yeah 08:10 <+alanc> should find out if SPI handles domain names too 08:10 < keithp> oh, a fine question. I think they can be an official owner as needed 08:11 <+alanc> looks like they might - the whois contact for debian.org is "SPI Hostmaster" 08:11 < whot> technically an asset, right? 08:11 <+alanc> I think so 08:11 <+egbert> in any case, we (or someone else) needs to get in touch with leon. 08:12 <+alanc> once we finish the election we should be able to ask him to transfer directly to SPI, instead of having him give to us now and then to them later 08:13 <+egbert> alanc: yes. 08:13 < mupuf_> right 08:13 <+egbert> also we need access to the account at network solutions. 08:14 <+egbert> i remember that when we did things 10y ago it was a bit tricky due to the special domain name we have. 08:14 < whot> ok, so short story: who's going to contact leon? 08:14 <+egbert> i can do this. 08:15 <+egbert> as he knows me. 08:15 < mupuf_> yeah, please do. 08:15 <+egbert> last time i met him was 2y ago. 08:15 <+egbert> linuxtag berlin. this won't happen any more though. 08:15 < mupuf_> to me, leon is the name of a restaurant in Brusseks 08:16 <+alanc> I think it's been 5 or 6 years since I last saw him 08:16 <+alanc> Leon Shiman was the first X.Org Foundation secretary if I recall correctly 08:16 <+egbert> alanc: yes. 08:16 < mupuf_> oh, wow 08:16 <+alanc> also the lead of the aborted MAS audio project for the previous X.Org consortium 08:16 < mupuf_> thanks alan 08:17 < whot> egbert: sold, you got the job :) 08:17 < whot> anything else on the domain name? 08:17 <+egbert> what shall i tell marc? 08:18 < whot> sync with him, tell him you 'll get the account info from Leon. then figure out what he wants to look into :) 08:18 <+alanc> what was it he was volunteering to do? 08:18 <+egbert> ah, one related thing: it seems that CACert uses one of the registered addresses to verify the ownership for a certificate. 08:18 <+egbert> so i don't know how the certificate got done last time. 08:19 <+egbert> alanc: to deal with the renewal of the registration. 08:19 <+alanc> I think keithp, tollef, & jrayhawk made the certs happen last time 08:19 < whot> egbert: "registered addresses"?? 08:19 < keithp> it was tollef 08:19 < mupuf_> what is the registered zddress? 08:19 <+egbert> the ones you get from whois. 08:20 <+egbert> email address. 08:20 < mupuf_> are you asking me to run whois on my phobe? :D 08:20 <+egbert> no, it is leon's email address if that's what you were asking. 08:21 < whot> egbert: well, you can ask mark to figure out what is needed anyway, makes your life easier when you have the account data. especially if the single-letter name is tricky 08:21 <+egbert> whot: ok. but i can also call there myself. unless one of the us people (and native speakers want to beat me for it) ;p 08:23 < whot> egbert: tbh, better to keep one task in one person's hand 08:23 <+egbert> whot: ;p 08:24 < whot> if marc has the time to figure it out, that's one thing. but splitting it across three ppl won't make it go faster, given the ample spare time we all have 08:24 < whot> ok, so domain business done for now? 08:24 <+egbert> yes 08:25 < whot> ok, thanks. next thing: SPI FAQ, I sent out the draft an hour-ish ago, will send it to members@ tonight 08:25 < whot> speak up now or be forever quiet something something 08:25 < agd5f> whot, looks good to me 08:25 <+egbert> whot: ok, so you have been working on that. thanks. 08:25 <+egbert> i was going to look into this but first was fosdem then i got sick. 08:26 <+egbert> i haven't had a chance to look yet. 08:26 <+alanc> looked good to me 08:26 < whot> egbert: have a look at the draft, feel free to add anything, you still have ~6h :) 08:26 <+egbert> but i hope to find some time to help out on stuff tomorrow. 08:26 < whot> if something is missing and comes up in the discussion we can always add to it later anyway 08:26 <+egbert> whot i won't be able to do it in the next 6h. 08:26 < whot> egbert: well, the alternative is that you take the email and send it out yourself tomorrow 08:27 <+egbert> but i'm sure we can add things or amend things later ;p 08:27 <+egbert> don't you want to put the faq on a wiki? 08:28 < whot> yeah, but I expect there'll be a few questions immediately and I'd rather not go and sync threads and the wiki but rather copy it once when things have calmed down 08:28 <+egbert> whot: i was actually going to do that if necessary. 08:29 <+egbert> now, since fosdem is over it should be possible - unless i get sick again. 08:29 < whot> egbert: yeah, we can do that later, right now it's mostly: should I send the email out today or you want to send it tomorrow? 08:29 < whot> (sorry, trying to move this all along, ETIME) 08:29 <+egbert> i can do this tomorrow if you want. 08:30 <+egbert> same distribution list as the election announcement or just members@? 08:30 < mupuf_> read it again. it's fine by me 08:30 < whot> good question, I'd say members@ 08:30 <+egbert> not everybody may have reregistered yet. 08:30 < whot> we had 80 members before IIRC and 55 now, that's pretty close I think 08:30 <+egbert> yup. 08:32 <+egbert> ok, let's go on. 08:33 < whot> last item on the agenda: XDC venue. I sent out the summary last week, then realised the crickets voted, so we'll just do it now 08:34 < whot> not sure what the appropriate vote is here, but I think everyone stating their preference should do? 08:34 < whot> unless you have justifyable veto reasons (which you should've put in email by last week ;) 08:35 < keithp> seems reasonable 08:35 < whot> so everybody, speak up for Toronto or Boston please 08:35 < keithp> I'd prefer boston; I think the proximity of town to the venue is important 08:35 < agd5f> Toronto 08:37 < marcoz> Toronto (but just barely) 08:38 <+alanc> Toronto 08:39 < whot> Boston 08:40 <+egbert> Boston 08:40 < mupuf_> Toronto. let amd organise one xdc :) 08:40 <+egbert> barely, but i agree with keithp 08:41 <+alanc> stukreit is off skiiing somewhere 08:41 < keithp> (frankly, it's awesome that we have two bids to pick from) 08:41 < mupuf_> and i'm sure we'll manage to have fun 08:41 < whot> right, so we have 4:3 for Toronto 08:41 < keithp> sounds good. 08:42 < marcoz> sounds aboot right, eh? 08:42 < whot> stukreit's absense saves us from a potential hanging vote, we should make use of that :) 08:42 < keithp> marcoz: :-) 08:42 < whot> i.e. XDC 2015 will be Toronto, eh? 08:42 < keithp> whot: we'll get you to westford somehow 08:42 < keithp> you betcha 08:43 < whot> keithp: yeah, because westfort is the place to be... 08:43 < whot> westford 08:43 < mupuf_> yep, tstellar will be happy 08:43 < whot> anyway, that's done, thanks for voting. last item: election. egbert? 08:43 <+alanc> maybe for XDC 2017 the Red Hat boston office can find a venue out in Wayland, Mass. so the rest of us can see it 08:44 < keithp> alanc: I'd skip that event. Been there, not going back. 08:44 < mupuf_> ah ah! good one alanc 08:44 <+egbert> like i said, i was getting behind a bit. i also need to look into our voting system how easy or hard it is to add the spi vote there. 08:44 <+alanc> I'll have to take your word for it, never been 08:45 <+alanc> I don't remember it being that hard to add a Yes/No item to the ballot 08:45 <+alanc> something like 5 minutes of setup in the app 08:46 <+egbert> alanc: did we ever have this before? 08:46 <+alanc> yes, for voting on approving the bylaws 08:46 <+egbert> right. 08:46 <+egbert> ok, i should be able to figure that out. 08:46 <+egbert> otherwise we just do 0 for no and > 0 for yes ;p 08:47 <+egbert> at least developers should be familiar with this concept ;p 08:48 <+egbert> ah, no. we also have to let people abstain. 08:50 < whot> ok, anything else election-related? 08:50 < whot> did we have any nominees yet? 08:51 < mupuf_> thanks a lot egbert for all tour work! 08:51 < mupuf_> i'll run again this year. 08:51 <+egbert> mupuf_: thanks! 08:51 <+egbert> whot: not from my side. 08:51 <+egbert> if there is i'll yell on the ml. 08:52 <+alanc> did anyone send out a call for nominations yet? I didn't see one 08:53 <+egbert> i haven't either. 08:53 < whot> ok, hand's up, who wants to copy/paste and mail the call for nominations? 08:54 < mupuf_> have to go guys. it's high-time i go to sleep! See you! 08:54 <+alanc> I think Carl's template is what we've been using each year - should be in the wiki or the mailing list archives 08:54 * mupuf_ has problems reading at this point 08:54 < whot> we should volunteer mupuf_ then 08:55 < mupuf_> hey hey. i can do that 08:55 < whot> we have a winner! 08:56 < whot> mupuf_: ok, you can go to sleep now. the minutes will tell you what you have to do ;) 08:56 < mupuf_> added it to my agenda for tomorrow 08:56 < mupuf_> thanks! 08:56 < whot> egbert: do you have a todo list for election-related things anywhere? so we can reduce the bus factor (or flu factor) 08:56 -!- mupuf_ [~sailfish@83-245-233-113-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi] has quit [Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.8] 08:57 <+egbert> whot: i will circulate my todo tomorrow. 08:59 < whot> thx 08:59 < whot> ok, we're almost out of time, anything else missing? 08:59 <+egbert> not from my side. 09:00 <+alanc> nothing here 09:01 <+egbert> ok, good night, then :) 09:01 < whot> oh, bylaws. Martin sent out a request for bylaw reviews, can you all please look through it and ack/nack the current state 09:02 < whot> let's say by next Friday, so we can send out the pdf to the members list 09:02 < whot> that's your homework for next week :) 09:02 < whot> and with that, thanks for attending, see you in two weeks