Date is 2012-07-05, times are UTC+02.

23:01 <agd5f> hi
23:01 <+Bart_Massey> howdy all!
23:01 <marcoz> except when the kids or pets have had too much sugar. then the office is so much better. ;)
23:01 <marcoz> Hi Bart
23:02 <stukreit> my kids are grown, and my 14 year old dog is mellow company
23:02 <+Bart_Massey> Where are the meeting minutes kept, again?
23:02 <+emmes> hey bart
23:02 <+alanc> though we miss having stu's dog come to the office with him since the acquistion ended the pets-at-work policy
23:02 <+alanc> Bart_Massey:
23:03 <+emmes> haven't uploaded the last one yet
23:03 <stukreit> yeah, because he's the best dog in the world(tm), at least that's what the vet told me 14 years ago.
23:03 <marcoz> too bad. it's kinda nice having pooches around. Did you ever hear of a dog deciding to mark a cube wall?
23:03 <+Bart_Massey> emmes: ok. just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something.
23:04 <+alanc> did hear of very rare occasional accidents, as well as the occasional coworker with allergy attack
23:04 <+Bart_Massey> Sorry to not be available last meeting. Anything of note?
23:04 <marcoz> pencil lashing for my falling behind on the CFP
23:04 <+Bart_Massey> LOL
23:05 <+alanc> we all wished we'd been with you on the beach with drinks containing little umbrellas instead
23:05 <+Bart_Massey> Yeah, I wish you could have been there too :-)
23:05 <+Bart_Massey> I'm not sure why I left...
23:05 <+Bart_Massey> So anyway, let's make this quick, as I don't have too much on my list.
23:05 <+Bart_Massey> Anybody got specific things we need to talk about?
23:05 <stukreit> if you'd bought the island, you could stay as long as you want.
23:06 <+Bart_Massey> $600M is an insane bargain
23:06 <stukreit> I have things. Some wire transfers made
23:06 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: cool. tell us
23:06 <stukreit> Ok, to Sundar Ravichandran: $1000
23:07 <+Bart_Massey> EVoC?
23:07 <stukreit> Francisco Jerez Plata: $3000 ( last 2 payments of prev year)
23:07 <stukreit> yes.. these are all evoc
23:07 <+Bart_Massey> Yay!
23:07 <stukreit> to Supreet Pal Singh: $1000
23:07 <stukreit> to Jess Vanderwalker: $1000
23:08 <stukreit> To Francisco Jerez Plata: $329.89, travel expenses (Fosdem, I believe?)
23:09 <marcoz> any luck with Blaz?
23:09 <stukreit> Our balance in savings account is $89,968/21, checking: $135.15
23:09 <+alanc> yeah, we covered his trip to fosdem to talk about his winter EVoC projects
23:09 <+Bart_Massey> Cool. Thanks much as always.
23:10 <+Bart_Massey> BTW, alanc: thanks much for the note you sent out on travel funding and stuff. That was really nice.
23:10 <stukreit> re blaz: looking, wait
23:10 <+alanc> sure, was quick to write up
23:11 <+Bart_Massey> Speaking of which, anyone hoping to go to or whatever it was?
23:12 <+Bart_Massey> OK. I'm tempted, but I'll have to take a really close look at my schedule before I commit.
23:12 <+Bart_Massey> Other outstanding business: Have we paid our Delaware back taxes and penalties?
23:13 <stukreit> re Blaz: I don't think I completed the order for him because we went back and forth on his banking numbers. I try to save a pdf of each wire order,  but I'm not excellent at recordkeeping, admittedly. I Thought I tried to send his order. There are so many gotcha's in the wire txfer process, sometimes its an hsbc website failure.
23:13 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: NBD. Do email him again and check where the two of you are, though.
23:13 <stukreit> Didn't attack the delaware fee yet. The action was to contact them and beg for leniency on the penalty one more time. 
23:13 <+alanc> didn't actually hear back from anyone about, LCA, or others, but their CFPs have a few days left I think
23:14 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: Delaware really needs to be done sooner rather than later. Do you need some help with it?
23:14 <stukreit> yes, will do. It has a new line in my notebook with the clever checkbox in front.
23:14 <+Bart_Massey> You should also find out whether we can pay a year ahead, maybe...
23:15 <stukreit> well, yeah. Did Alex contact them the first time?
23:15 <+Bart_Massey> Probably. I was involved at some point early on also, as was cworth.
23:15 <+Bart_Massey> agd5f: Around today?
23:15 <stukreit> I scanned in this and a few docs. I intend to scan in all of the bulging folder so people can help without holding the filebox.
23:16 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: Excellent
23:16 <agd5f> Bart_Massey: contact whom?
23:16 <+Bart_Massey> Delaware
23:16 <stukreit> it'll be excellent when someone other can make good use of it.
23:16 <agd5f> they contacted SFLC and filled in the web form and paid the taxes
23:17 <+Bart_Massey> agd5f: "they"?
23:17 <marcoz> just fyi:   Ashwin (SUndar)  mentioned he might be interested in FOSS.IN and talking about CUDA.  I haven't had a chance to run this down any further.
23:17 <stukreit> right now I can't find the fed tax id. in my pile. anybody have it handy?
23:17 <agd5f> Bart_Massey: they contacted SFLC and *I* filled in the web form and paid the taxes
23:17 <agd5f> whoops
23:18 <stukreit> agdfffff: wasn't that the previous year? or this year too, making my page obselete?
23:18 <+Bart_Massey> marcoz: That would be cool, I think? IDK Ashwin, but it would be nice to have someone there
23:19 <agd5f> stukreit: I thought you were handling this latest one
23:20 <stukreit> oh, well, damn, ok.
23:20 <agd5f> I only did the last two years, not the most recent one
23:20 <stukreit> I'm kind of rejection averse. What did you say to make them give in?
23:21 <stukreit> and will they realize we keep screwing up and whining?
23:22 <+Bart_Massey> Anyway, if agd5f and stukreit could figure out the tax thing and send Delaware whatever money they think they are owed ASAP, that would be great.
23:22 <+Bart_Massey> I don't think we need to whine or mess around: Just send them what they asked for, no?
23:22 <stukreit> the bill is like $175, $150 of that is penalty
23:22 <+Bart_Massey> That's fine: we're good for it.
23:23 <+Bart_Massey> We screwed up. Let's just pay the penalty and get on to next year's taxes :-)
23:23 <stukreit> not sure why we were late nor why the bill finally came to my house
23:23 <stukreit> I can do that. 
23:23 <+Bart_Massey> Cool. Thanks!
23:24 <+Bart_Massey> Next item: I'm back to working on getting the e-book from our book sprint together. I should have a draft in a couple of weeks.
23:24 <marcoz> Bart_Massey: yay
23:24 <stukreit> on a related note: hsbc charges us "analysis fee" which apparently bundles various service including wire fees. This month it was $96. I really should ask about that and get it knocked down.
23:25 <+Bart_Massey> I've learned how to build epub with Sigil, and I think that's the plan: convert everything to HTML, then to epub, then to whatever format folks want using Calibre
23:25 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: We need to get a better bank, IMHO. We've had nothing but trouble with HSBC. 
23:25 <+alanc> do we have a plan for book sprint @XDC yet?  getting near time to make travel plans for september
23:25 <stukreit> How about Barclay's?
23:25 <+Bart_Massey> Now that we have the 501(c)3, I think there's no reason not to move.
23:26 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: I don't really know much about choosing a bank. Talk to keithp, who has more experience.
23:26 <+Bart_Massey> alanc: Good point; we should figure this out.
23:26 <stukreit> ok
23:26 <+Bart_Massey> marcoz: What's the organizational plan for the f2f book sprint at XDC?
23:26 <marcoz> I believe emmes and the Nuernburg posse have reserved a room for those days.
23:26 <marcoz> for the book sprint
23:27 <marcoz> the two days before XDC
23:27 <+Bart_Massey> marcoz: Yes. Now we need invites, and a vague plan for what we'll be doing there.
23:27 <marcoz> "the same thing we do every fall pinky....plan to take over the world"
23:27 <+Bart_Massey> Oh, that *never* ends well...
23:27 <marcoz> ;)
23:28 <+Bart_Massey> Given that we're so close to done with the new developers' guide, I'm wondering if a driver developers' guide based around marcheu's stuff would be the right thing to do there.
23:29 <+Bart_Massey> We could take his apart and put it back together with him. I could edit, which is the limit of my technical competence on that topic.
23:30 <+Bart_Massey> Anyway, let's take that whole discussion offline. marcoz: charging you with doing an email dialogue with the board and interested x-ers to get something together in the next week or two. Good?
23:30 <marcoz> I like that. how much editting would be required? It looks in pretty good shape already.
23:30 <marcoz> Bart_Massey: ok.
23:30 <+Bart_Massey> marcoz: IDK. It's obviously well-written and looks complete to me, but I'd feel better if keithp and airlied and whoever reviewed it thoroughly.
23:30 <+alanc> is the Wayland API stable enough yet that we should be having wayland book sprints to get documentation for developers?
23:31 <+Bart_Massey> alanc: Ooh, good idea.
23:31 <+Bart_Massey> marcoz: Add that to the list.
23:31 <marcoz> will that spread us too thin?
23:31 <+Bart_Massey> marcoz: No, we have to pick
23:32 <+Bart_Massey> I'd say if keithp and airlied and agd5f and whoever else I should be mentioning look at marcheu's stuff and say "almost done", then the Wayland thing is a better plan.
23:32 <marcoz> ok, that'll be part of the discussion then.
23:32 <+Bart_Massey> New content trumps old content for a book sprint.
23:32 <+Bart_Massey> marcoz: yes
23:32 <+Bart_Massey> OK, I don't have anything more obvious to talk about. Any more items from others?
23:33 <agd5f> where is marcheu's latest version?  Last time I looked at it was probably 6-9 months ago or longer
23:33 <+Bart_Massey> agd5f: I don't think it's changed much since then.
23:33 <+alanc>
23:34 <agd5f> oh cool.  git.  last one I had was a pdf
23:35 <+alanc> that's the sources that generate the pdf, I've got the pdf link somewhere as well
23:35 <+Bart_Massey> Move to adjourn. Thanks all!
23:35 <stukreit> +1
23:35 <marcoz> +1
23:35 <agd5f> +1
23:35 <+alanc> +1
23:36 <+Bart_Massey> motion carries. thanks again!